tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5349472.post8155168374058548223..comments2024-03-28T14:22:37.153-07:00Comments on mole: HygieneDalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14523194846272870013noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5349472.post-73661532482964227532011-05-15T11:46:32.696-07:002011-05-15T11:46:32.696-07:00A very close friend of mine was murdered when I wa...A very close friend of mine was murdered when I was in my twenties, and there was a real, primal sense of relief when her murderer was executed. It wasn't any emotion I recognized as vengeance: it just felt very wrong for the this man to be still alive. I don't think seeing his body would have done anything for me, but I don't know. Basically I think it's superstition, to think anything gets put right by killing a killer, but it's a pretty deep-seated one. What's repaired, if anything, is the hearts of the people who have lost loved ones -- certainly not the universe. But you do need to feel that other people participate in your sense out outrage, your sense that this person has done something that puts him utterly outside the usual laws and restraints of humanity. <br /><br />But basically, nothing really helps that much, nothing but time. Some things, nothing puts right, and the sooner we admit it the better.Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14523194846272870013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5349472.post-58159247912740983902011-05-14T23:56:48.767-07:002011-05-14T23:56:48.767-07:00I got involved in a brief but intense flameout wit...I got involved in a brief but intense flameout with an American FB contact, a poet who maintains a blog canted very much towards the spiritual. He wanted OBL's body to be put on display so that it could be seen that he was dead and so that he, the FB-er, could find (and here my lips pucker in citrus distaste) 'closure'. I pointed out that DNA comparisons would be the closest proof that might be offered, but he was insistent on his need for the exposure of the corpse. I found this revolting.<br /><br />I share your need to avoid that tub of shit, but I lack the spiritual infrastructure (however indisciplined) to be able to 'come to silence' so I joined battle. Then I chopped the link with him so I guess silence now prevails!Dickhttp://patteran.typepad.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5349472.post-40213076776700538812011-05-11T20:48:37.892-07:002011-05-11T20:48:37.892-07:00I have a friend like that, Dale. And a very religi...I have a friend like that, Dale. And a very religious guy, at that (Catholic). I tend to ignore the passionate remarks, as he is otherwise a very nice person. But the vitriol harkens the same sort of fanaticism as from where OBL came. Kinda scary.Jaynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06694559900539722616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5349472.post-68662481095716468272011-05-10T18:29:18.244-07:002011-05-10T18:29:18.244-07:00I call it taoism (small t, mind) that caught me, o...I call it taoism (small t, mind) that caught me, or perhaps uncovered the truth of my soul once I'd read through the tao de ching (spell it how you like.)<br /><br />As you say, he was not important, and got to where his life was leading him. No need to wrap oneself up in that, nor wish him more harm.Zhoenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03515663141425057088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5349472.post-4406340283231210922011-05-10T12:41:26.713-07:002011-05-10T12:41:26.713-07:00Oh, no, Anne, I didn't mean you needed religio...Oh, no, Anne, I didn't mean you needed religion to find that odious, or that religious people be more likely to avoid it. Just that it's from religious traditions, usually, that you get the cogent reasons for avoiding it, and nuts-and-bolts procedures for cleaning up when you haven't been able to. I would certainly have been just as distressed by my friend's response back when I was a card-carrying atheist.<br /><br />Pro, hi! I haven't seen you for a long time! xoxoDalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14523194846272870013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5349472.post-7805758184617748112011-05-10T11:46:16.067-07:002011-05-10T11:46:16.067-07:00(o)(o)Pronoiahttp://whitemoon@verizon.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5349472.post-48941591052470475602011-05-10T11:42:22.319-07:002011-05-10T11:42:22.319-07:00I don't need any religion at all to find the t...I don't need any religion at all to find the things your friend advocated utterly odious. Actually, that kind of stuff is often advocated by people who call themselves religious.Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04979547096244105508noreply@blogger.com